IRC log for #koha, 2019-10-22

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06:33 * magnuse waves
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06:39 reiveune hello
06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:40 reiveune hi magnuse
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06:44 magnuse ashimema around?
06:47 ashimema Ish
06:47 Running around in child school readiness duties
06:47 But can check in here readily enough from the phone
06:47 For away
06:47 Fire away, even
06:48 magnuse i'm having trouble viewing the table of ill requests on current master. there is a 400 error from the api
06:48 have you seen that?
06:48 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "400 when viewing list of ill requests" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4374
06:49 magnuse but no rush, get yourself to the office first :-)
06:50 a customer is having trouble viewing the list on 19.05.04 too, i have asked them to check their logs when they have the time
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07:00 alex_a Bonjour
07:00 wahanui hola, alex_a
07:02 magnuse ashimema: nope, my error is only on master, not 19.05.04
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07:07 ashimema Is it bug 14242 perhaps magnuse
07:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Failed QA , Use ISBN-field to fill out purchase suggestions (using an Ajax-request)
07:08 magnuse The problem we are seeing on 19.05.04 is probably bug 22280, at least
07:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22280 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , The ILL module assumes every status needs a next/previous status
07:10 magnuse ashimema: wrong bug number?
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07:14 magnuse bonjour paul_p
07:15 ashimema Bug 23529
07:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23529 major, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Interlibrary loan javascript is broken
07:15 ashimema Even
07:15 Silly mobile copy paste
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07:18 kohaputti Koha hackathon at the national library of finland just started! :)
07:18 patches are on their way -->
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07:20 fridolin yoloooo
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07:25 paul_p kia ora magnus
07:25 & others
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07:30 magnuse kohaputti: cool!
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07:45 fridolin ;)
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07:58 magnuse ashimema: i applied the patches for 23529, but i still get the same error, so i think this is another problem. i'll report it
08:11 cait kohaputti: hope you have a great day :)
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08:32 ashimema awesome kohaputti
08:32 punt stuff our way when you need any community backup for the SO/QA/Push train :)
08:33 @later tell marcelr I'm really stuck.. I can't get a version of mariadb that supports CHECK constraints to even work with a reset_all in koha-testing-docker.. too much breaks.. I'm wondering how your testing
08:33 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:34 ashimema @later tell marcelr I'm trying with mysql 8.0.16 now.
08:34 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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08:41 magnuse looks like the illrequests api endpoint is not picking up allowed parameters from the api spec. anyone seen that before?
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08:56 sev_q Hello dear Koha community :)
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09:01 magnuse hiya sev_q
09:04 sev_q hi magnuse !
09:05 * magnuse needs lunch
09:15 * cait too
09:15 cait but a bit early here
09:15 hi sev_q :)
09:20 sev_q hi cait !
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10:08 kohaputti lari, mihin tätä tarvitaan: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18795 ja nuo bugit mihin tuo dependas ois nyt korjattu molemmat
10:08 huginn Bug 18795: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, johanna.raisa, NEW , REST API: DELETE (anonymize) checkout history
10:08 kohaputti oops, sorry wrong channel :)
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11:41 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:45 ashimema be interesting in your review of bug 23633 at some point oleonard
11:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Filter out historical charges by default on a users 'your charges' page
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11:52 oleonard In getting there... What the heck is going on with this space?? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15717451397408
11:54 Oh cool the "Home library" column has this in it: <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
11:56 ashimema yowers
11:56 where did that come from
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12:00 oleonard Oh wait it's in the "Note" column, not the library column
12:01 One <br> for each fine paid in that transaction
12:02 ashimema yikes.. that's nasty
12:03 had no idea that happens
12:03 don't think it's anything to do with this bug.. but it does seem wrong
12:03 cait oleonard: interesting
12:04 oleonard Yeah I didn't think it was connected to the bug, I just noticed it when making sure I had some paid transactions to filter
12:04 cait oleonard: did you see the bug from crispybran about the whitespace in the item details table?
12:04 oleonard Yes. He didn't follow up with examples of his jQuery yet did he?
12:07 cait didn't see any
12:07 kohaputti: any news from your side? :)
12:07 just curious about how the hackfest is going
12:09 kohaputti cait, it's going well, bunch of patches signed-off and resubmitted/rebased
12:10 cait nice!
12:10 it's only today?
12:10 kohaputti yeah, only today
12:11 cait ah ok
12:15 paxed tomorrow and thursday has other stuff (hmm.. translation might be "library networking days"?)
12:15 cait ah ok
12:15 so people will still be there?
12:16 paxed it does have a koha track
12:17 kidclamp does anyone know, can you use capture groups in marc modification regex?
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12:18 cait kidclamp: i don't understand the question
12:18 do you mean () $1 or similar?
12:19 was it \1?
12:19 kidclamp s/(\d{4})/\$1-/
12:19 yes
12:19 cait i think you must be able to - i know i have heard of people rewriting urls
12:19 hm or maybe that would work without, but don't think it's limited
12:21 ashimema pass
12:21 paxed $value =~ s/$regex->{search}/$regex->{replace}/
12:21 ashimema pass
12:21 paxed so, should work
12:26 fridolin \1 is in awk I think ;)
12:30 kidclamp https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]titution-operator
12:31 we cannot do it right now, I think this came up tangentially with the callnumber regex stuff maybe
12:40 Joubu indeed kidclamp, you cannot. That's why I had to store the full regex for the callnumber split
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12:41 kidclamp https://blog.james.rcpt.to/201[…]-using-variables/
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12:51 tcohen morning
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13:00 fraktik I tried to play with Advanced Editor (cataloging) and it is not loading for me (both 18.05 and 19.05, both FF and Chrome). What I should try, what to include into bug report?
13:03 It's not working for both czech location and english version. Is possible it is interfering with our custom made javascripts?
13:05 And what exactly mean this: NOTE: Currently does not include support for UNIMARC or NORMARC fixed fields.  --- but even if the problem would be in some different format of our MARC (we are using MARC21, RDA flavor), I would expect some different result, then endless running circle: "Loading, please wait...""
13:06 kidclamp check the JS console in the browser
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13:10 fraktik i found probable cause: it is trying to load some unprotected script from somewhere... FF is not informing about it
13:10 Chrome gave some small tripple-dot on the end of url bar and after allowing went trough.
13:12 ashimema one that came out of comments at marseille hackfest: bug 23866
13:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23866 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , HEA submission preferences should prompt similar to ManaKB.
13:13 paxed fraktik: do you have ad blocker? i'm wondering if it's not allowing something beginning with "ad" to load (and it's the advanced editor ... ;)
13:13 fraktik Blocked loading mixed active content “http://demo.koha.cz/cgi-bin/ko[…]k?callback=define” editor.pl The resource from “https://demo.koha.cz/cgi-bin/k[…]=&callback=define” was blocked due to MIME type (“text/html”) mismatch (X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff). editor.pl <script> source URI is not allowed in this document: “https://demo.koha.cz/cgi-bin/k[…]taloguing/framewo
13:14 yep, i have adblock plus everywhere. will try to turn it of too, thx for an idea.
13:15 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23867: Resolve "truncated incorrect double" for empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7797c260d9b647f79>
13:19 fraktik So i tried to turn of AdblockPlus (nothing was blocked there), even went trough security setup of FF (turn of check: Deceptive Content and Dangerous Software ProtectionBlock dangerous and deceptive content ), setup Custom "Content Blocking", where I unchecked all, but it's still the same.
13:19 amoyano Hi fraktik, maybe your page loaded as https but it's trying to load http content
13:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #35: STILL FAILING in 5 min 31 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/35/
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Update Developer Statistics <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8394ab321e09e1f7c>
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13:31 fraktik_ ok, so, we have secured our server with "Lets encrypt" certificate + in nginx there is forward for everything http to https. So I expected those scripts would probably not work on any system/browser. I was confused by Chrome, where if I allowed it in url bar pop-up, it loaded.
13:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #930: FAILURE in 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/930/
13:35 ashimema Joubu about?
13:35 fraktik_ My browser on win is frozen (I was not thinking ahead when pressing "Reload ALL tabs" in Content Blocking of FF - i have maybe hundreds of tabs in 30+ FF windows). But here on Linux is everything working as expected.
13:36 "just" the page is unsecured with big "!":
13:37 Mixed Content: The page at 'https://demo.koha.cz/cgi-bin/k[…]oguing/editor.pl' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure script 'http://demo.koha.cz/cgi-bin/ko[…]?callback=define'. This content should also be served over HTTPS.
13:37 ashimema @later tell Joubu could you look at comment 74 on bug 23329
13:37 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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13:43 magnuse fraktik_: have you set *baseurl correctly, with https://... ?
13:43 * magnuse wanders off to make pancakes
13:44 caroline_catlady magnuse: yum! will you share?
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13:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #404: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/404/
14:01 Project Koha_Master_D10 build #36: STILL FAILING in 6 min 11 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/36/
14:02 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #467: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/467/
14:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22445: DBRev 19.06.00.042 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7acc3a4a1615a7430>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Add new pattern %normalized_isbn% <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a9f7b0fa1f3e9738>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: (follow-up) Use CSS to set a max-width for images - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6003be123241f98d6>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac user (checkout list) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d4f22fa5aaf02a67>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac shelfbrowser <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d2ea8f4f288dc5939>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Allow marc fields as pattern <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a92abaaeaa79eee4b>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Add tests for Koha::Biblio->custom_cover_image_url <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a908f415ea6f361da>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Replace %% with {} <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57a3dc415253de8ea>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: (follow-up) Use CSS to set a max-width for images - Staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29675a9be409b0a92>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac detail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96ee6d0e68e131e93>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86b6fda22c8ba4441>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Add new method Koha::Biblio->custom_cover_image_url <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9db3bdfa5522dc2c>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Add new prefs *CustomCoverImages* <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c414e6161b6d704e>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - search resulta (staff) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]454972fa778b64c5f>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - detail (staff) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f31db1a75c582ddd4>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac reviews (rss) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e09470ee6ceb02b26>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac reviews <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b315a1c43b451773>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac shelves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ab7288435937206b>
14:07 News from kohagit: Bug 22445: Custom cover images - opac result (rss) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a64c7d14b5d4578b0>
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14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #468: FAILURE in 19 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/468/
14:17 huginn News from kohagit: Update docs/teams.yaml for 19.11.x development cycle <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]750f7952e2dbeda1e>
14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #37: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/37/
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14:27 caroline_catlady cait, do you know if the holds queue is for all holds or only the available holds?
14:28 I have a hold on a record (patron and item are both from the same library, only one item in the record) and even after I run build_holds_queue, the hold doesn't show up
14:28 (item is checked out)
14:30 the manual says "This report will show you all of the holds at your library." I assume that means all the holds, including items that are available or checked out
14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #469: STILL FAILING in 34 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/469/
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14:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:42 wahanui Congratulations!
14:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #931: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/931/
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14:45 kidclamp bug 23089
14:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23089 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch - cannot sort on non-text fields
14:46 kidclamp I bumped this one, we need to fix sorting for ES after search field changes
14:47 cait caroline_catlady: only the ones with something available to be picked up
14:47 well... checked in...pulled?
14:48 caroline_catlady ok so what is the difference from holds to pull and holds awaiting pickup?
14:48 cait it's basically the same as the holds to pull, just works differently
14:48 kidclamp holds to pull shows any with available, holds queue relies on a cronjob
14:48 cait funnily...i jsut got a ticket with the same question
14:48 yeah
14:48 and the cronjob is complicated
14:48 it tries to determine the library that shoudl pull the book
14:48 or item
14:48 kidclamp it uses deep magics to determine which item
14:48 cait and it can use the cost matrix
14:48 kidclamp deep deep magics
14:49 caroline_catlady lol!
14:49 cait the branch transfer thing... statistical hold queue... randomized hold queue
14:49 whatever you prefer
14:49 to determine the library that has to answer 'first'
14:49 caroline_catlady so is there a way to see all the holds?
14:49 kidclamp holds queue is better for consortia as it will do all of that, but for a single branch holds to pull is sufficient
14:49 cait kidclamp: i am actualyl astonished that the holds queue bits ae part of the checkin/trapping as you say, it doesn't seem right to me still
14:49 caroline_catlady: nope
14:49 we use a report
14:50 kidclamp it sort of makes sense cait
14:50 cait kidclamp: for libraries never checking the holdsqueue thing?
14:50 caroline_catlady ok I will make a note to change the manual, because that is not what it says
14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #38: STILL FAILING in 7 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D10/38/
14:50 cait caroline_catlady: probably shoudl adjust something in the gui as well
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14:51 kidclamp so if you have two items available, and a next available hold followed by an item specific the holds queue will use the non-requested item to fill the next available, rather then the item requested in the specific hold, so both holds can be filled, and we look for that at checkin
14:51 otherwise the NA gets filled first and the other person has to wait
14:53 if neither item is selected for the queue though, then we will just fill the highest priority hold
14:53 so if you aren't using the holds queue list, maybe don't run the cron, because it will do things
14:56 caroline_catlady "things" XD
14:56 kidclamp deep deep deep magic
14:56 it's a "scary basement" as we like to say
15:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #405: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/405/
15:01 caroline_catlady Can we change the default assignee for "Documentation" bugs?
15:01 I was thinking the documentation list maybe
15:05 cait not sure if that woudl create emails to the list... but maybe that's what you want?
15:05 caroline_catlady yes
15:05 cait you might have to subscribe the bugzilla user for that to work... and Joubu or rangi can change i think
15:05 caroline_catlady currently it's "Bugs list"
15:05 I thought that was a mailing list?
15:06 ok I will ask one of them when I see them
15:14 cait the koha-bugs is a mailing list
15:14 i subscribe to that :)
15:15 all changes from bugzilla
15:15 caroline_catlady wow, that must fill your inbox pretty quick
15:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #932: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/932/
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15:16 cait caroline_catlady: it goes into a specific one
15:16 but it's quite a bit of email
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15:21 ashimema stupid question..
15:21 cait there are no stupid questions... ;)
15:23 ashimema I see you can set the `Default lost item fee refund on return policy` on the circ rules page
15:23 can you also set policies other than the default there?
15:24 cait is default on the all libaries page?
15:24 caroline_catlady you have to go to all the individual libraries pages
15:24 cait yeah i think that is it
15:25 reiveune bye
15:25 caroline_catlady I've had problems with this...
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15:25 cait the individual branches are supposed to inherit from the 'all libraries' unless set specifically
15:25 ocmpare to a library circ rule page
15:25 ashimema I can't see the option in the circ rules matrix
15:25 I can't see the option in the circ rules matrix
15:26 I can't see the option in the circ rules matrix
15:26 cait it's below
15:26 and you just said this 3 times?
15:26 caroline_catlady ashimema is bugging
15:26 he is in fact a robot disguised as a human ;)
15:27 in 18.05 I have not found that the branches inherit the default setting
15:27 ashimema I can't see the option in the circ rules matrix
15:27 aha.. found it
15:27 caroline_catlady I had set the default to No, and the branches had "Yes (Default)"
15:28 cait caroline_catlady: that sounds like someone had the options upside down
15:28 caroline_catlady anyway, caused a lot of headaches to me Marie-Luce and the librarians
15:28 cait it seems ok in my 18.11
15:28 i have jes - inherit default (yes)
15:28 yes even
15:28 ashimema you have to select a branch..
15:29 cait you can set a global default
15:29 and overwrite from the individual branches
15:29 global = on the 'all librreies' circ rules page
15:29 ashimema it's not itemtype or patron category dependant so it's not part of the matrix
15:29 it's not itemtype or patron category dependant so it's not part of the matrix
15:30 * caroline_catlady is trying it right now on her 19.05 test installation
15:30 caroline_catlady ashimema: you have echo
15:31 ashimema :duck:
15:31 kidclamp still around?
15:32 grr.. silly irc
15:34 cait your silly... client?
15:37 caroline_catlady cait I confirm that it works in 19.05 and it also works on my 18.05 test installation... Not sure why I had this particular problem with two clients in the past year...
15:37 * caroline_catlady is confused
15:38 ashimema ermm
15:40 cait maybe a fixed bug
15:40 ashimema: yes?
15:41 ashimema shouldn't `WhenLostForgiveFine` be branch level (i.e. in the circ rules) the same as `RefundLostItemFeeRules` ?
15:41 seems odd that one is system level and the other is per branch
15:41 cait history
15:41 they weren't created at the same time
15:41 not the same feature either
15:42 overdue fee vs listitem fee
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15:42 ashimema huh
15:42 a fixed bug?
15:42 yeah, they're certainly from different times.. but they do seem very complimentary
15:43 caroline_catlady ashimema: could you be receiving our messages out of order?
15:43 ashimema I'm just trying to work out how far to go with this bug.
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15:44 ashimema they are both dealing with 'Lost' handling
15:44 so yeah.. different Fee's but same condition ;)
15:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:48 wahanui Congratulations!
15:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #933: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/933/
15:49 ashimema seems I am indeed recieving stuff out of order
15:49 seems I am indeed recieving stuff out of order
15:49 wahanui i already had it that way, ashimema.
15:50 oleonard seems I?
15:50 What did you have, wahanui?
15:50 wahanui i haven't a clue, oleonard
15:52 ashimema grr.. stupid irc client
15:52 grr.. stupid irc client
15:55 grr.. stupid irc client
15:55 grr.. stupid irc client
15:56 cait you just said that 4 tiems
15:57 kidclamp I bet he didn't :-)
15:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #406: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/406/
16:00 kidclamp cait:ashimema is giving up on IRC for today, he asked me to share so he doesn't blow up the chat :-)
16:03 cait: bug 19288 - do you still have questions?
16:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19288 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, In Discussion , Holds placed on a specific item after a next available hold will show varied results
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16:14 cait kidclamp: i still think we should fix the display then
16:14 we have had this feature for 10 years - I don't see our mostly single branch libraries happy about this change
16:14 and for them... i think it works
16:14 i think we shoudl at least bring it onto the main mailing list
16:16 kidclamp the only reason I push this way is that otherwise we have to do a lot more processing to figure out the correct display
16:17 and in single branch libraries i is wrong
16:17 a next available hold will never show, so the name displayed will be wrong
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16:21 cait but it says *item hold'
16:21 i think the thign is that in those library there is hardly ever more than 1 hold
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16:21 cait but if the mailing list says remove, I'd be ok with it
16:22 i just feel uncomfortable about this being a kinda sneaky change
16:22 this feature has been tehre since 3.2
16:22 well, even before, but i know it has been in 3.2
16:22 kidclamp kk, lemme write it up
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18:37 * magnuse finds an envelop and prepares to send some pancakes to caroline_crazycatlady
18:38 caroline_crazycatlady *grateful* :D
18:38 oleonard-away What's good to put on those pancakes magnuse?
18:42 oleonard I don't imagine caroline_crazycatlady needs you to mail an envelope full of maple syrup
18:42 caroline_crazycatlady just the pancakes is fine, unless you have norwegian jam or something
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18:44 oleonard caroline_crazycatlady: You know he does
18:46 magnuse the standard norwegian way is with blueberry jam
18:46 we also use bacon
18:46 our son likes to combine the jam and the bacon
18:46 classical case of salty + sweet = yum
18:47 caroline_crazycatlady sweet/salty is good
18:49 magnuse our best shops do have maple syrup, but i don't think that is a common thing to put on pancakes
18:51 Marie-Luce maple syrup goes well with everything
19:19 oleonard See y'all later
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