IRC log for #koha, 2018-12-10

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01:18 Francesca @rangi christmas dashboard theme is ready to be tested
01:18 huginn Francesca: I suck
01:18 Francesca whoops
01:18 rangi - merge request sent
01:19 let me know if anything breaks
01:26 tcohen Francesca++
01:27 Francesca: it is used like @later tell <nickname> <message>
01:27 Francesca yeah I rembered after I sent it
01:27 I'm out of practice lol
01:27 thanks!
01:30 k gotta go
01:31 hope the theme works - if not, will fix it later! bye all
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05:00 * Francesca waves
05:00 Francesca I'm back
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07:35 reiveune hello
07:41 magnuse \o/
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08:21 Archie^ good morning Koha!
08:23 magnuse hiya Archie^
08:25 ashimema christmas dashboard theme
08:25 awesome!
08:28 Francesca++
08:28 Francesca oh is it working?
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08:28 Francesca I didn't think it had been merged yet
08:28 *clears cookies*
08:29 ashimema it hasn't as far as I can see
08:29 but I'm looking foraward to it :)
08:29 Francesca Should be tomorrow hopefully
08:29 fingers crossed it all works!
08:29 hard to test fonts locally
08:30 ashimema I'd meant to do a Koha advent calendar this year.. but things got in the way :(
08:30 Francesca that would be super cool
08:30 I missed coding and I was like its christmas so need a theme to match
08:30 ashimema :)
08:31 Francesca I really should get back into web coding haha
08:31 ashimema we'd welcome you back with open arms ;)
08:31 Francesca awww
08:32 well you never know - maybe I'll do a matariki theme next year
08:32 ashimema oh, cool
08:33 Francesca I wanted to do one this year, but got too busy
08:33 so much potential
08:33 so little time
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08:33 * ashimema hopes it would include a tiny summary of what that is ;).. I love learning about stuff like that
08:33 Francesca yeah that would be useful
08:33 I don't really edit the HTML bc thats generated through some other way
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08:33 Francesca buuut I'm sure rangi would put one in
08:34 or I could stick a link in
08:34 or something
08:34 wahanui something is broken
08:34 ashimema it's easy enough.. one of us could walk you through it.. I'd be happy to
08:35 Francesca oooh
08:35 that would be cool
08:35 fridolin hi community
08:35 Francesca hey
08:37 ashimema you could do it a couple of ways.. add a simple html block into the relevant template (/views/show_entries.tt) or get a little more clever and add a handler to load any arbitrary markdown or similar into a predescribed area in the template
08:37 Hi fridolin
08:37 Francesca interesting
08:37 I'll have to have a play around with that at some point
08:37 ashimema I'm jumping back on the bandwagon today.. finally going to catch up on the 18.11.x queue.. thankfully kidclamps been pretty quiet the last week ;)
08:40 Francesca ya know if you do get around to doing a koha advent calender
08:41 I will stick a link to it on the dashboard
08:41 ashimema :)
08:41 Francesca probably shouldn't try embedding direct into the dashboard page
08:41 its looking pretty crowded these days
08:42 ashimema yeah.. I've been thinking it could do with a little bit of a UI tidyup somehow
08:42 not come up with a nice alternative though yet ;)
08:42 I'm proud of the new build status badge table though.. I like that
08:42 Francesca I might have a play around as well
08:42 the dashboard used to be my baby when I was working at catalyst
08:42 before then as well actually
08:43 ashimema cool
08:43 Francesca I loved doing themes and stuff
08:43 ashimema it's served us really well.. I use it frequently
08:44 Francesca I think I still have screenshots somewhere of what it looked like before my catalyst academy
08:44 the build status table is neat
08:44 there should be more stuff like that
08:44 Archie^ so i was doing a cleanup of my test db (removing test libraries etc) and i removed 1 record from Issues and now KOHA runs SUPPER slowly
08:44 :/
08:45 ashimema https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]community.org:80/
08:45 bit different aye
08:46 Francesca it didn't look like that when I started
08:46 ashimema wow.. were you at catalyst in 2013?
08:47 that's when it change to be a bit more like it is now
08:47 same basic layout, but not as pretty
08:47 https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]ha-community.org/
08:47 Francesca I made it pretty
08:47 yup thats it
08:47 I did the academy at the start of 2014
08:48 which is when I decided to turn it green - wasn't much good at bug fixing so wizzyrea (if I remember correctly) gave me that instead
08:48 it was a fun project
08:48 ashimema hehe: https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]community.org:80/
08:49 well.. I always apreciated the green.. just made it feel more friendly
08:49 Francesca yup that's right after I got to it lol
08:49 green is a nice colour
08:50 * Francesca is thinking
08:50 Francesca some of those long lists could be hidden with some html
08:51 drop down list or something
08:51 or tables
08:51 I like tables
08:51 ashimema I think some of them could posssibly be replaced by graphs
08:51 like the activity one.. that could make a nice time based chart
08:52 some things need text.. but in general a picture can speak a thausand words if you can work out what picture to show :)
08:52 Francesca yeah that would be cool
08:52 pictures are gooood
08:52 there used to be a graph??
08:52 I seem to remember
08:53 ashimema oh.. i don't remember that
08:53 Francesca huh
08:53 might be misremembering lol
08:53 wonder how you'd generate a graph
08:53 I've finished uni and currently looking for a job
08:53 now might be a good time for me to play with this
08:54 ashimema always good to showcase your skills
08:55 what did you study?
08:55 I'd probably use somthing like D3.js for graphs.. though there may be simpler, lighter, libraries out there
08:56 tuxayo hi koha o/
08:56 Francesca studied music
08:57 well, music studies
08:57 wrote big long essays
08:57 ashimema coolios
08:58 Francesca also toying with the idea of increasing the border curve on the banner
08:58 looks pretty darn cool when you up it
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09:29 marcelr hi #koha
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10:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #3: FAILURE in 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D9/3/
10:05 magnuse Francesca: newest koha can create graphs for reports - maybe use the same library that is used for that?
10:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #2: FAILURE in 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D8/2/
10:06 magnuse bug 17282
10:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17282 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Ability to create charts for SQL reports
10:06 Francesca I will have a look
10:06 thanks magnuse!
10:06 ashimema @later tell tcohen looks like docker isn't happy for some reason
10:06 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
10:06 Francesca should probably go back to packing though
10:06 ashimema hehe
10:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #3: FAILURE in 33 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_U18/3/
10:08 magnuse nah, there is always time for a little coding first ;-)
10:08 "This patch adds 2 new js libraries: d3js and c3js:"
10:08 ashimema oh cool :)
10:09 magnuse ah "C3 makes it easy to generate D3-based charts by wrapping the code required to construct the entire chart. We don't need to write D3 code any more."
10:09 ashimema interesting
10:09 magnuse from https://c3js.org/
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10:31 Archie^ Hey is it possible to make some sort of grouping inside of a particular library? In librarie we have here there are several FUNDS inside a 1 library (for instance 1 funds would be books available for reading on site, other fund is books available to take home etc)
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10:34 Francesca I'm back
10:34 the coding looks interestin
10:34 g
10:34 will play around tomorrow maybe
10:34 right now, gotta pack
10:34 its 11.30 pm NZ
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10:45 magnuse Archie^: do you mean grouping the funds in the acqusistions module? or grouping the books in the library? (or rather, make the grouping in the library visible in the catalogue?)
10:46 for the latter, there are things like collection and location and call number at the item level
10:48 Archie^ magnuse: i'm thinking funds in the acqusistions module (maybe?) basically it's a library within a library. Think of it as a "kids section" and "reading section"
10:54 deffinately not acquisitions module
10:56 cait acquisitions speaks of funds when it's about money
10:57 i think you might be looking for another word
10:57 locations or collections, like magnuse suggested
10:58 * cait waves
11:03 cait kidclamp: around?
11:04 Archie^ what excatly is the call number? And by location do you mean shelf number?
11:05 cait call number = shelf number
11:05 location is something like... first floor
11:05 children's corner
11:05 new books shelf
11:05 whatever you want
11:06 Archie^ where can i find these location settings
11:06 ?
11:06 cait they are authorised value
11:06 s
11:06 and then stored in 952$c in your item
11:07 Archie^ ok, maybe that will work
11:08 thank you
11:10 cait Archie^: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]data_fields_(9xx)
11:10 some mor einfo about al litem fields available
11:12 Archie^ thank you cait
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11:24 * andreashm waves
11:27 * cait waves at andre
11:27 cait andreashm:
11:27 andreashm hi cait
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11:40 gveranis hi #koha
11:42 andreashm hi gveranis
11:42 gveranis after upgrade to 18.11 xslt on Staff display not working for Detail view
11:42 and I don't get any error on log
11:43 I search for any related bug but not found much, the installation is unimarc mode
11:43 any idea ?
11:44 hi andrea
11:52 cait are you using your own xslt or the default ones?
11:52 Francesca g'night #koha
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11:58 gveranis the default one
11:59 I try on preferences to change the value of default to the path, but with no success
11:59 and the other strange thing is why I don't get something on log as error
12:00 all the other XSLT preferences working, only the one for display not working
12:11 cait which log did you check?
12:11 plack err log?
12:16 gveranis no I don't have enable plack
12:17 cait you should
12:17 :)
12:17 gveranis oh ok
12:17 thank
12:17 cait but the problem is probably a different on, but there should be something in th elogs
12:17 if you don't have plack.. it should be in the error logs
12:19 magnuse gveranis: could it be a caching issue? do you use memecached?
12:19 gveranis yes I restarted 2-3 times now
12:20 ok I found it , nothing with the upgrade . something in UNIMARCslimUtils.xsl . I suppose not showing on error log because this file is calling by xsl engine and not from perl source
12:21 thanks all
12:24 * kidclamp waves
12:25 * ashimema ducks
12:25 ashimema I'm all caught up now kidclamp.. feel free to fill my queue
12:26 * ashimema goes back over the history to see what the precident for release of X.11.01 releases is.. feels so close to last release and xmas.. things feel slow since release
12:29 kidclamp roger ashimema
12:33 ashimema jessem and lukeg sebtling into it now :)
12:37 magnuse ashimema: speaking for myself, i'm not going to update anyone to .1 on december 23rd :-)
12:40 cait i have a presentation end of jan - hoping to do that with 18.11 :)
12:44 ashimema hehe
12:46 lol.. cait release on 22nd back in dec 2016
12:47 joubu waited till the 3rd in 2017
12:47 wow.. 16.11.01 actually had 34 bugfixes in that time too.. people must have been on form that year :)
12:48 I'll stick to schedule.. it'll be a tiny release but it keeps us all on target
12:48 cait still some more time to find bug and fix them too
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12:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:56 Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #3: FIXED in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D8/3/
12:57 oleonard Hi #koha
13:00 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:00 Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #4: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D9/4/
13:07 Archie^ This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (1 items). <- i literally have no records in Issues and only 1 patron without any checkouts
13:07 magnuse ashimema++
13:07 oleonard Archie^: What about item records?
13:08 Archie^ oleonard: where can i find this?
13:08 wahanui i guess this is one of the things they were referring to this morning : https://www.mcgill.ca/library/[…]services-platform
13:09 oleonard Archie^: The items table has homebranch and holdingbranch columns
13:10 Archie^ items table is empty
13:24 more then that, i removed the records from branches table and it is still in koha GUI :D
13:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:28 Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #4: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_U18/4/
13:29 Joubu hi #koha
13:30 Archie^: the patron is using it
13:30 Archie^ Joubu: as i said before, there is only admin in borrowers tables and no items
13:32 Joubu borrowers.branchcode?
13:36 Archie^ Joubu: the branchcode is a different library that im not trying to remove
13:36 i have 2 libraries
13:41 Joubu reading the code I have no other idea, we display the alert if select count(*) from borrowers where branchcode="XXX"; select count(*) from items where holdingbranch="XXX" or homebranch="XXX";
13:41 oleonard Is this something that a "restart_all" could help?
13:42 Archie^ koha restart_all ?
13:42 oleonard sorry I'm thinking in devbox terms
13:42 Restart plack and memcached
13:42 Archie^ oleonard: how to? :)
13:45 oleonard sudo koha-plack --disable kohainstancename
13:45 sudo service memcached restart
13:45 sudo service apache2 restart
13:45 sudo koha-plack --enable kohainstancename
13:55 tcohen hola
13:55 Joubu nope, should not change anything
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13:58 caroline good morning!
13:58 oleonard Hi tcohen and caroline
13:59 Archie^ true, didnt change anything :)
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14:02 Archie^ so ok, i have 2 libraries. Trying to delete 1 of them but it says "This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (1 items)." Issues table is empty, Items table is empyt. How?!
14:06 Joubu please return the value of the 2 SQL queries I gave before
14:08 Archie^ select count(*) from borrowers where branchcode="XXX" Count = 0  select count(*) from items where holdingbranch="XXX" or homebranch="XXX"; count = 0
14:09 so the history of this issue is, i had 1 record in issues and i removed it via DB
14:09 Joubu you replaced XXX with the branchcode's library you are trying to remove, right?
14:12 Archie^ hmm one sec
14:12 yah
14:13 Joubu what about your koha's version?
14:23 Archie^ 18.05
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15:20 reiveune bye
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17:50 oleonard Joubu still around?
17:52 Never mind, answered my own question
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18:06 Joubu I am :)
18:06 jajm: around?
18:07 ashimema I might steal you now Joubu :)
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18:09 * ashimema hopes his pm made it to Joubu
18:14 Joubu it did
18:15 ashimema I bet my query made you upset.. it was a bit general

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